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PostSubject: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeThu Jun 17, 2010 10:48 pm

Copied from the internal Fleet Leader Chat (Oops - didn't notice that when I sent out the Mass Mail).

As I mentioned, we now have 41 ECAIs.

In response to the question of what we shoudl do, , I believe that having 41 ECAIs in the armory (plus the occasional speculation item) is overkill.

I am considering trading some of the ECAIs that I have for CPAIs and C3ETs.

I have a couple of considerations:

1) I believe that the C3ETs are used more than CPAIs, so I would tend towards aquiring these, assuming the price was right.

2) Many generous fleet members have donated money to the fleet, in exchange for me putting ECAIs on long-term loan to the fleet. If I were to exchange the ECAIs for CPAIs or C3ETs, while keeping the overall value the same (or increasing it), would anybody feel that the this is a fair deal? I don't want to be seen as violating the spirit of the donations that were previously made.
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeThu Jun 17, 2010 10:58 pm

My intention with the ECAIs was to help get to the 30/30/30 level.

So I vote for getting the C3ETs up to the same # as the CPAIs and reevaluating then.
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeThu Jun 17, 2010 10:58 pm

I was just about to do that! Wink

Current status is the fleet now has 37 Effys AIs - I've traded my CPAI on long term loan to the fleet in exchange for 3 Effy AIs. If people feel this isn't appropriate I can reverse the trade. In all fairness Effy's are worth about 20-22.5 mil atm, and a CPAI 65-71 MIl so the fleet is a winner here.

As a result we have an "excess" of 7 Effy AIs (bearing in mind we want to have a 30/30/30 coat as our main aim).

So I would be in favour of either Bridge or the fleet trading 7 of the Effys for either a C3ET or a couple of CPAIs which seems to be about the right valuation. As we have a couple of CPAIs for speculation we could easily swap over "speculation" tag and have 2 CPAIs permanently in the fleet. On the other hand another C3ET would be nice!

What do people think we should do?
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeThu Jun 17, 2010 11:01 pm

I seldom, if ever use the ECAIs. That may be because I don't understand where they may be of the best use on my part.

I do use the C3ETs more than the CPAIs. That's mostly because during the work day I can have them in and out in about 15 minutes versus having to keep track & remember the CPAIs for an hour. A lot can happen in that time to distract me or pull me away.

However, given that I haven't donated nearly what those who have come before me have, I withhold my vote. I'm good with whatever is decided.
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeThu Jun 17, 2010 11:09 pm

I think working toward the 30/30/30 goal is a good idea. I personally use C3ETs almost exclusively. I don't have the patience to squeeze every last drop out of research. I usually wait till I've got full research and hit it. In that case, increasing the smaller number (energy) gets the best result.

So, personally, I'm most in favor of C3ETs.
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 1:41 am

I use all three types of research gear. I use the CPAIs when I am at home and playing for many hours while doing other thinks as this maximises research. I use the C3's when popping in and out or when I am also levelling so don't want to spend too much time in a coat.

I use the effies too. I equip 8 when going off line so that I have a running start on research when I come back later. I also use them if the CPAIs are out - very often the CPAIs will be back before the effies are full.

All that being said - I agree we have more effies than we need and too few C3's
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 10:19 am

Keep in mind that rules are not cast in stone.

If we maintain an armory of 40 ECAIs, we could change the rules to allow a pirate to be off-line with 10 ECAIs.

If we were to have 60 ECAIs, we could allow pirates to be off-line with 15 ECAIs.

I'm working on the principle that we are unlikely to have more than 4 people using the ECAIs at any one time (assuming that two people are using CPAIs)

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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 2:08 pm

I think the 40 -60 Effys should be a long term target after the rest of the gear. I think we need to concentrate on the really heavy gear first. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 3:38 pm

Keep in mind that Bridge owns nearly all of the Effies that the fleet has.

6 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
7 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
8 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
9 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
10 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
11 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
12 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
13 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
14 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
15 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners

17 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
18 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
19 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners

21 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners

24 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
25 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
26 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
27 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners
28 ECAI - Long Term Loan from Bridgeburners


While this is not really a problem, it could be argued that the fleet only really owns 11 EACI's. :P

Personally I am all for trading the "excess" EACI's for CPAI's and E-techs.
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 3:48 pm

BTW

Anyone know the score on those 5 cpai's we have for speculation?
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeFri Jun 18, 2010 8:34 pm

Well there's 7 "extra" Effy's so either the fleet can trade and upgrade or Bridge can. Smile

We have access to them all anyway. Smile (thanks Bridge!)
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PostSubject: Re: ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat   ECAIs and the Future of the Fleet Labcoat Icon_minitimeWed Jun 23, 2010 1:32 am

Consenus seems to be trade or sell them. So it has been said, so it shall be written.
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